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There are many suggestions where Edmund Price's ancestors actually came from. The most accepted thought of this is Wales but Holland and Ireland are also possiblities.

There are many suggestions to who were Edmund Price's parents were as present in "The Descendants of Edmund and Jane (Webb) Price" and "The Family Name Price" but in 2003 a discovery might help track this missing information. As reported in Generations, the journal of the New Brunswick Genealogical Society, spring 2003, page 21, William Price of Simcoe, Ontario, found these items in New York City records:
1736 Feb. 23: John Price married Mary Cross. (New York marriage records, marriage book vol. 1, p. 5)
1763 Apr. 7: Administration on the will of John Price was granted.
1765 Oct. 17: Mary Price married Allan McDougall. (New York marriage book IX, p. 305)
Allan McDougall and his family had come to America in 1738 from Scotland. Apparently he was widowed and married John Price's widow Mary. Mary's son Edmund named a son, Allen McDugall Price, born in about 1764, after Edmund's stepfather.

Also in the Genealogy Forum under Devon, England Genealogy Forum, message number 1364, there is more discussion on this mystery. "Edmund Price was a son of John Price and his wife Mary Cross who were married at the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam (now New York) on 23 Feb. 1736. Edmund apparently had a sister Antje Price, baptized at the Reformed Dutch Church in New Amsterdam (now New York) on 8 Jan. 1738." "It might be possible that Richard Price, Walter's father could be a brother of John Price, Edmund's father. "

Going with the assumption that Edmund Price's ancestors did come from Wales, the name Price came from "AP RHYS" which was changed to AP RYCE, APRYCE, PRYCE, and finally anglicized into Price. The "AP RHYS" name is a very ancient family that can take its history from different royal lines - "direct line from MARCHWESTHIAN, a famous Prince and Cheiftain of the house of AP RHYS of RHYLAS, NORTH WALES who served with great distinction with GRYFFD ap CYNAM, at the beginning of the 11 century." or "another that goes back to 350 A.D., and takes MARCHWESTHIAN'S LINE back to BRYCHAN, KING of ALL WALES." or "another line goes back to through the Dukes of Normandy, King John of England" (all found on here)

The ancient home and seat of the family known as RHUDDLAN CASTLE has been in the possession of, and has been the of home of the CHEIFTAINS of the family from a remote period. AP RHYS built the castle in the 11 century.

As early as 1615, several members of the PRICE family of RHYLAS and BALA immigrated to Virginia and in 1682, others came with their kinsman, WILLIAM PENN to settle the WELSH TRACT.

1700's and 1800's

Edmund and Jane [Web] Price were married in 1757 at Woodbridge, Middlesex County, New Jersey came to New Brunswick in 1767 and traveled to St John but did not stop until they found land in the Sheffield area. With them, they brought four or more children eventually ending up with over 15 children. Edmund had leased 200 acres of land from Capt. William Spry in Grimross, Sunbury County, Nova Scotia and is now Gagetown, Queens County, New Brunswick. Within two years, Edmund decided that he would purchase. The deed was dated July 12, 1769 [Saint John Registry Office, Book 131 — pgs. 15 and 161.

So by June of 1783, Edmund Price and most of his family had departed from Gagetown and moved to land on the St. John River and they built a farm lot near Evandale, New Brunswick, on the west bank of the St. John River between Evandale and Oak Point with a couple of sons buying land close to their Fathers. This area on the river was called the Mistake because of the errors that boat captains made when sailing the St John River by going in the wrong channel. Search 45.561131,-66.03104 in Google Maps.

This lot is important to the Price family because it contains the family graveyard. The house has been in the family for many generations and many have made the trek to see the area.

Thumbnails of the existing house on that property. Click on each picture for a larger version.

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    Price house and yard in Sept, 2005
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    Price house and yard in the 1980's
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    Price house and yard in Sept, 2005
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    Price house and yard in Sept, 2005
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    Price house and yard in Sept, 2005
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    yard in Sept, 2005
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    yard in Sept, 2005
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    Price house and yard in Sept, 2005
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    yard in Sept, 2005
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    yard in Sept, 2005

Thumbnails of the graveyard on that property.

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    Price Graveyard in late 1980's
  • Price Graveyard in September, 2005Price Graveyard in September, 2005
    Price Graveyard in September, 2005
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    Price Graveyard in September, 2005

Here are a few of the Headstone markers in that grave yard.

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    Headstone of George Price 1980's
  • Headstone of George Price September 2005Headstone of George Price September 2005
    Headstone of George Price September 2005
  • Headstone of James Price September 2005Headstone of James Price September 2005
    Headstone of James Price September 2005
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    unknown September 2005
  • Headstone of Jane Price 1980'sHeadstone of Jane Price 1980's
    Headstone of Jane Price 1980's
  • Headstone of Jane Price September 2005Headstone of Jane Price September 2005
    Headstone of Jane Price September 2005
  • Jerusha Price Marker 1980'sJerusha Price Marker 1980's
    Jerusha Price Marker 1980's
  • Headstone of Jerisha Price September 2005Headstone of Jerisha Price September 2005
    Headstone of Jerisha Price September 2005
  • Headstone of John Price September 2005Headstone of John Price September 2005
    Headstone of John Price September 2005
  • Headstone of John Price 1980'sHeadstone of John Price 1980's
    Headstone of John Price 1980's
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    mini stones September 2005
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    mini stones September 2005
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    unknown September 2005

Down the road from the old homestead is the Oak Point Cemetery.

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    Oak Point Cemetery September 2005
  • Aggie M Price Headstone September 2005Aggie M Price Headstone September 2005
    Aggie M Price Headstone September 2005
  • Arthur W Price Headstone September 2005Arthur W Price Headstone September 2005
    Arthur W Price Headstone September 2005
  • Charles A Price Headstone September 2005Charles A Price Headstone September 2005
    Charles A Price Headstone September 2005
  • John C Price Headstone September 2005John C Price Headstone September 2005
    John C Price Headstone September 2005
  • Kenneth and Muriel Green Headstone September 2005Kenneth and Muriel Green Headstone September 2005
    Kenneth and Muriel Green Headstone September 2005
  • Menzie Green Headstone September 2005Menzie Green Headstone September 2005
    Menzie Green Headstone September 2005
  • Phebe Price Headstone September 2005Phebe Price Headstone September 2005
    Phebe Price Headstone September 2005
  • Ruth R Price Headstone September 2005Ruth R Price Headstone September 2005
    Ruth R Price Headstone September 2005

In the spring of 1793 George W. Price with his wife and three small children moved to New Canaan.

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    New Canaan Baptist Cemetery sign September 2005
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    first settlers of New Canaan monument
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    first settlers of New Canaan monument September 2005
  • Authur W Price headstone September 2005Authur W Price headstone September 2005
    Authur W Price headstone September 2005
  • Jane Price headstone September 2005Jane Price headstone September 2005
    Jane Price headstone September 2005
  • Jane Price's husband headstone September 2005Jane Price's husband headstone September 2005
    Jane Price's husband headstone September 2005
  • John F Price headstone September 2005John F Price headstone September 2005
    John F Price headstone September 2005
  • John F Price headstone September 2005John F Price headstone September 2005
    John F Price headstone September 2005
  • Maria C Price headstone September 2005Maria C Price headstone September 2005
    Maria C Price headstone September 2005
  • Mary Price headstone September 2005Mary Price headstone September 2005
    Mary Price headstone September 2005
  • Sarah J Price headstone September 2005Sarah J Price headstone September 2005
    Sarah J Price headstone September 2005

Before 1814 George Webb Price moved from New Canaan to Havelock, Queens county, New Brunswick (cadastral map) where there are a lot more Price's buried at two main graveyards- Butternut Ridge Loyalist Cemetery and Greenhill Cemetery. Here is an article from the Tidbit that describes Havelock's history.

Upper Greenhill Loyalist Cemetery

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    Upper Grennhill Loyalist marker
  • Butternut Ridge Loyalist CemeteryButternut Ridge Loyalist Cemetery
    Butternut Ridge Loyalist Cemetery
  • George Webb Price MarkerGeorge Webb Price Marker
    George Webb Price Marker
  • Rachel (Ford) Price MarkerRachel (Ford) Price Marker
    Rachel (Ford) Price Marker
  • Rachel PriceRachel Price
    Rachel Price
  • Abram V PriceAbram V Price
    Abram V Price
  • Budd PriceBudd Price
    Budd Price
  • Capt James PriceCapt James Price
    Capt James Price
  • Caywood S PriceCaywood S Price
    Caywood S Price
  • Ethel C PriceEthel C Price
    Ethel C Price
  • Frankie PriceFrankie Price
    Frankie Price
  • George M PriceGeorge M Price
    George M Price
  • George Rix PriceGeorge Rix Price
    George Rix Price
  • Glorana Harding PriceGlorana Harding Price
    Glorana Harding Price
  • J Milton PriceJ Milton Price
    J Milton Price
  • John C PriceJohn C Price
    John C Price
  • Margaret E PriceMargaret E Price
    Margaret E Price
  • Minnie_May_Price_sm.jpgMinnie May Price
    Minnie May Price
  • R Catherine PriceR Catherine Price
    R Catherine Price
  • Samuel Caywood PriceSamuel Caywood Price
    Samuel Caywood Price
  • Samuel Caywood PriceSamuel Caywood Price
    Samuel Caywood Price
  • Walker PriceWalker Price
    Walker Price
  • William F PriceWilliam F Price
    William F Price
  • William PriceWilliam Price
    William Price
  • William PriceWilliam Price
    William Price
  • Price's markers in Upper Greenhill CemeteryPrice's markers in Upper Greenhill Cemetery
    Price's markers in Upper Greenhill Cemetery
  • Mary L PriceMary L Price
    Mary L Price
  • Lucretia PriceLucretia Price
    Lucretia Price
  • James K PriceJames K Price
    James K Price
  • George W PriceGeorge W Price
    George W Price
  • Price monument at Upper Greenhill cemeteryPrice monument at Upper Greenhill cemetery
    Price monument at Upper Greenhill cemetery

This is the monument located at the graveyard.

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    Price Monument

Epitaph reads:
In Memory of Rachel, wife of the late George W. Price Died 1st of April 1856 Aged 86 years She came to this province with her father Cap. John Ford who was one of the loyalists. She left 14 Children, 107 Grandchildren and 130 Great Grand-children

Greenhill Cemetery

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    Greenhill Cemetery
  • Isaiah and Ellen and Margaret and Irvin and Mina and IrenaIsaiah and Ellen and Margaret and Irvin and Mina and Irena
    Isaiah and Ellen and Margaret and Irvin and Mina and Irena
  • Glena and Freeman and Esaias and Deliah and Sopha PriceGlena and Freeman and Esaias and Deliah and Sopha Price
    Glena and Freeman and Esaias and Deliah and Sopha Price
  • John Rix PriceJohn Rix Price
    John Rix Price
  • Margaret PriceMargaret Price
    Margaret Price
  • Marshall PriceMarshall Price
    Marshall Price
  • Mary J PriceMary J Price
    Mary J Price
  • Phoebe PricePhoebe Price
    Phoebe Price
  • Williama PriceWilliama Price
    Williama Price

Pine Grove Cemetery

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    Pinegrove Cemetery sign
  • Authur F PriceAuthur F Price
    Authur F Price
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    Authur F Price back
  • David S and Freeman PriceDavid S and Freeman Price
    David S and Freeman Price
  • Sophia PriceSophia Price
    Sophia Price

Isaiah and Ellen F. (Lewis) Price in Upper Wards Creek

My branch of the Price's moved from the Havelock area to Upper Wards Creek where Isaiah and Ellen purchased land to start a farm and lumber mill. The picutres below show the view that had while living here. Also pictured is the basement on the house that Isaiah's son owned on that property. One picture shows the house while it still stood.

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    Isaiah and Ellen Price
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
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    Upper Wards Creek
  • Basement in Upper Wards CreekBasement in Upper Wards Creek
    Basement in Upper Wards Creek
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    Basement in Upper Wards Creek
  • Basement in Upper Wards CreekBasement in Upper Wards Creek
    Basement in Upper Wards Creek
  • stream in Upper Wards Creek where they got their waterstream in Upper Wards Creek where they got their water
    stream in Upper Wards Creek where they got their water
  • old homesteadold homestead
    old homestead
  • old Upper Wards Creek schoolold Upper Wards Creek school
    old Upper Wards Creek school

Land Grants

  • Isaiah Price's grantIsaiah Price's grant
    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
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    Isaiah Price's grant
  • Isaiah Price's grantIsaiah Price's grant
    Isaiah Price's grant
  • Isaiah Price's grantIsaiah Price's grant
    Isaiah Price's grant
  • Isaiah Price's grantIsaiah Price's grant
    Isaiah Price's grant

McNamee/Priceville Suspended Footbridge

A tragedy happened 1939, 5 men crossed (Tennyson, Willard, and David Price (survived), Jimmie Stewart, Lawrence (survived)) when the original swing bridge collapsed, sending 3 of the men to their drowning deaths. The current structure was constructed in 1988. A poem was written by Edith (Price) Munn can be found here.

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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
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    Priceville suspension bridge
  • Priceville suspension bridgePriceville suspension bridge
    Priceville suspension bridge
  • Priceville suspension bridgePriceville suspension bridge
    Priceville suspension bridge

The women who marry Price men

While creating this site I have met a few of my cousin who have had the same interest as I in the Price family. One of the aspects that interested them was the women who married into the Price family. Jane Webb was a pioneer more than once while following Edmund Price to NB. The area they left (New Jersey) would have been a lot more developed than Grimross, NB. Rachel Ford who married Jane and Edmund's oldest son also had hardship in her life when moving to new areas in NB.

My Great Grandmother Anne Priscella Cann was a WWI wartime bride brought to Canada by Irvine Isaiah Price. England would have been so more advance than NB at that time especially where they lived in Upper Wards Creek, NB. Her family in England had money, electricity, paved road, cars, and neighbors who were close. But in New Brunswick she had to get use to having little money, no electricity, no running water, no cars, neighbors that lived far away and she raised many kids in that situation. Irvine was not around the house much so she really raised the kids on her own. Later in her life, when Irvine died, she would get her license to drive in her 60's, I think. Her life sort of reminds me of what Jane Webb went through. When I met her, she was in her 90's and still had a lot of life left in her. Anne's was born in the last 1800's live through the 1900's and died in Sept. 2000. A very long life that spanned 3 centuries.

Sense of Responsibility

One thing that the Price's are know for is they sense of duty or responsibly. Many Price's have serve in a war. My great-grandfather, a couple of his brothers , all of his sons, and other cousins served in World War I or/and II. A few cousin now are serving in the Canadian military. This sense of pride goes all the back to Edmund where in a petition to the N.B. government dated 13 March, 1815 [Kings Co. No. 1037], Jane reffered to Edmund serving in "His Majesty as an ensign in the old French War", which could mean the campaigns of 1744-48 or 1754-63. Edmund's oldest son George Webb also served in the military as a Queen's Ranger and donated a sword to New Brunswick Museum . As of 2005, this sword (Picture 2) (Picture 3) (Photos curtisity of Gary Hughes, Curator, History and Technology, New Brunswick Museum, Thanks Gary! )is still in the care of the NB Museum but is not on public display. You can make arrangements with Gary at the Douglas Avenue facility in St John to see this sword.

While touring the areas that are important to our history in New Brunswick, my Grandfather, Father and I made an appointment with Gary Hughes to see the sword.

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    sword blade
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    George W Price sword handle
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    sword description
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    sword description
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    sword lion head

The eldest grandson of Edmund’s was named James Abercrombie Price, no doubt named after General James Abercrombie, who served in the French and Indian Wars as a Colonel, but later became commander of all British forces in America.

There are also many who have served with the police, fire (second picture- Jody Price), Emergency Response Teams, and hospitals. Jody's father Gerald Isaiah Price was one of the longest servicing fireman in Canada. An article in the Kings County Record shows him recieving a medal.

This was taken from "Women At Sea In The Age Of Sail" on Ruby Cosack site

Glorana Harding Price was born in 1859 and grew up in the little farming village of Havelock. She went to Normal School to become a teacher. On August 3, 1881, when she was twenty-one, she married Captain Will Fownes, a sailor from St. Martins. They sailed the world together for twenty years. Due to Will’s poor health, he left the sea and they settled on a chicken farm in California. Upon his death in 1904, Glorana returned home to live with her mother. She died in 1954 at the age of ninety-five. A picture can be seen on Rick Crume's Genealogy at http://www.onelibrary.com/Genealogy/price/images/sb78ea.htm. Glorana Price Fownes that was responsible for inspiring and erecting the Monument to the Price Pioneers. There is a Manuscript at the New Brunswick Museum in St John which has her memoirs.

Fond title: Fownes, Glorana Price (1859-1954)

Date 1904

Location Fownes, Glorana Price CB DOC

Administrative History or Biographical Sketch
I. Typescript, Sailing memoirs of Glorana Price Fownes, wife of Capt. William Fownes, on board various vessels including barque Electa, brigantine Sunshine, brigantine Arbutus, barkentine Woodbine, barque Kate F. Troop, barque Challenger. 1881-1904; Includes genealogical information provided by William Price; Obituary of Glorana Price Fownes
II. Photocopies of above typescript (2 items)

One descendant of Edmund Price who lost his life while on the job was Sergeant Larry Young while working with the Vancouver Police. He was on vacation but went into work because of his dedication to his work and team. Sergeant Young was shot trying to remove high-level cocaine dealer in the Vancouver area. Full details can be seen on the VPD Memorial web site. http://www.policememorial.ca/larry_young.html Other sites remembering Sergeant Larry Young are here, here or here There is a Larry Young Memorial Waterfront Run which raises money for the Larry Young Scholarship Fund.

Larry's son, Constable Ryan Young, has also followed in his father and grandfather's foot steps. He was part of the Recruit Class 107. (scroll to the bottom of the page)

Artists

The ability to be creative also runs in the Price genes. While doing research for this site, I have found two artists- George James Littlechild Price and M. Joan Foulston